Fun Facts about the Electoral College

In my early post, I ran a couple what if scenarios.  Ethan Flax’s article discusses some of the answers to my question in his article.  Below I have copied some of his article.

What if no one gets a majority of the Electoral College’s votes?

If no candidate can grab a majority (currently 270) of the Electoral College’s votes, the House of Representatives meets immediately to pick the new president.

In this situation, each state’s Congressmen get together and pick a candidate among the top three vote getters in the Electoral College balloting.

Each state’s delegation then casts one vote. This process keeps going on indefinitely until a single candidate receives a majority of the states’ votes.

The House of Representatives has picked two presidents: Thomas Jefferson in 1800 and

John Quincy Adams in 1824.Since electors also ballots for Vice President, the same situation can arise with that office. In these cases, the Senate immediately goes into session to pick a Vice President, although each Senator has his own vote.

The Senate votes until a candidate receives a majority of the cast votes. This sort of contingent election has happened just once.

In 1836 Martin Van Buren’s running mate, Richard M. Johnson needed 148 votes to win the Vice Presidency, but Virginia’s electors refused to vote for him.

As a result, he ended up stuck with 147 votes, and the Senate had to hold a contingent election, where Johnson cruised by Whig candidate Francis P. Granger.

Can the electors change their mind?

They can, but they then become what are known as “faithless electors.”

Technically, states make their electors pledge to vote in a certain way, and 24 states have laws that punish electors who decide to get cute and switch things up.

However, with a few exceptions like Michigan and Minnesota, votes cast by faithless electors still count in the final tally.

What happens if a president-elect dies?

The national election takes place Tuesday, but the Electoral College won’t formally meet to cast their votes until December 15.

If a candidate dies or becomes otherwise unfit to take office in the interim, a thorny issue pops up.

Some states, like Virginia, legally bind their electors to vote for the candidate whose name was on the general election ballot. Other states, though, are more flexible and would allow their electors to vote for the ticket’s vice-presidential candidate or other agreed-upon candidate.

Luckily, this scenario has never happened with an election winner.

In 1872, though, Democrat Horace Greeley died just over three weeks after Ulysses S. Grant thumped him in the election.

Because the Electoral College still had to meet to elect Grant, electors who would have voted for Greeley simply spread their 66 votes among other Democratic candidates.

As a result, Thomas Andrews Hendricks actually came in second in the election with 42 electoral votes despite not campaigning for the presidency; he was busy successfully running for Governor of Indiana.

Three electors actually voted for Greeley even though he was dead, which probably tells you all you need to know about the health of the Democratic Party during Reconstruction.

If the President elect dies after the Electoral College’s voting but before the inauguration, the Twentieth Amendment states that the Vice President elect becomes President.


What if Obama was born In Kenya?

What if Obama wins the election and it is determined that Obama is not a a native born US citizen?  Would Joe Biden become the next US President?

One more what if scenario.  What if the electoral vote is split and we have a tie. There is always a possibility that with 538 electors, there could be a tie with 269 votes for Obama and 269 votes for McCain. The vote would turn to Congress, with the House of Representatives voting for President and the Senate voting for Vice President.  Let’s say that the House votes for Obama for President and then the Senate votes for Palin for Vice President.  Later it comes out, that there is proof that Obama is not a native born US citizen, then would Sarah Palin be our US President?

Why doesn’t Obama submit his birth certificate to the public?  This would resolve the whole issue, if he is a native born US citizen.  It would be a tragedy, if the US elected a person who does not meet the requirement to be the president of the United States.  If Obama is elected president how could he swear to uphold the Constitution, if he is in violation of Article 2? 

Why take a chance on voting for Obama, if he is not a natural born US citizen?  Use your vote wisely, vote for John Mcain this Tuesday.  If you want to vote for Obama, then wait till Wednesday.  :>

Can USA Basketball capture gold in 2008 Olympics?

Lebron James has guaranteed that the US will capture the gold medal for basketball in the Olympics.  This is a bold statement coming from an NBA player who has yet to win an NBA title.  This US Olympic Basketball team is a great collaboration of NBA talent.  It comes down not to talent as the US learned at the last Olympics in Athens but it comes down to how well they can play international basketball. 




I think the US Men’s Olympic basketball team will compete for a medal.  Will they get a gold medal, silver medal, or bronze medal?  Who knows.  I am still standing by Lithuania to win a gold medal.  I think it would be great if Lithuania played the USA in the final game to determine who gets the gold and silver medals.


GO Lithuania!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









Constitution Upheld

I was shocked by one decision this week by the Supreme Court in regards that a child rapist could not receive the death penalty if they were convicted of this crime.

I am happy to say they did uphold the fact that we the people still have the right to bear arms.  I am shocked it was a 5 to 4 verdict but what’s new.  It worries me when we look at the Constitution and try to interpret something that is not there.  My favorite misinterpreted part of the Constitution is “Congress shall make no law in regards to religion.”  The ACLU loves to take that clause and do whatever they can to any form of Christianity out of this nation.  It makes me wonder why we have rapidly decline in regards to morality.

Obama’s VP? Hillary Clinton?

Sometime this weekend, Hillary Clinton will concede her presidential bid to Barak Obama.  Barak Obama now has secured enough of the delegates to secure the bid.  Who should be on the ticket as the Vice President?

I have one piece of advice for Barak Obama, keep Bill and Hillary as far away from the White House as possible.  You don’t need Hillary Clinton on your ticket.  Take anybody else but Hillary, Bill Richardson would make a great vice president. 

Does Hillary deserve the Vice President position?  No Way!  Yes she fought a good campaign but that does not mean she deserves the position.  I think Bill Clinton being in the White House with Barak Obama as president will be an awkward situation.  If Hillary was Vice President, then Bill would have more free time than last time to spend with the interns.

It will be interesting to see how Barak Obama will fare up to the general election.  I think he is a lot of talk and no action. I am looking forward to the debates between Obama and McCain.  If he becomes president, the only change I guarantee is he will raise taxes.

McCain, Clinton, Obama – Do We have any other Choice?

My dilemma will come this November.  More than likely Obama will be the Democrats’ nominee and McCain has already wrapped up the Republicans’ nominee. I really don’t care who takes the Democrats’ nominee, I don’t like either of them.

McCain I don’t trust.  Just look at his voting record.  He looks more like than a Democrat than a Republican.  I don’t like Obama or Clinton because the first thing either nominee would do is raise taxes.  i would trust McCain when it comes to foreign policy but I am not too sure about Obama.  i think I would trust Hillary in the foreign policy department. 

I would vote for Obama or Hillary if they are serious about fixing our health care system in the United States.  I believe every American should have access to health care.  Most people are against a universal health care system but with the rising cost of health insurance, i am all for it.  The amount I pay for premiums every months versus a tax, Ican’t imagine my tax would be higher than what I pay.  there are many Americans out there who need medical treatment and we should not deny them treatment because they can’t afford it.  Two if they do get treatment, then they are stuck with an outrageous bill.  Don’t be fooled, Hillary or Obama won’t fix it.  I remember when Hillary was First Lady, it was proposed early in Bill Clinton’s presidency but it faded away quickly.

So who is our third option?  Please don’t mention Ralph Nader.  I want to know if there are any other serious candidates out there.  Let’s hope we get a real candidate between now and November. Otherwise it is going to be a long four years.